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Lethal Force - FOIA Requests

From: Damien Thorn <damien@comsec.net>
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 1997 15:20:18 -0800

>I recommend that someone try to get a copy of 5210 through FOIA.

You are absolutely correct, and I've just written the letters that
will go out Monday morning.  In addition to requesting the DoD
Directive 5210 from DoD themselves, We're asking the Air Force for a
copy of Air Force Instruction 31-101, from which Mr. Haskin quoted, as
well as any similar Instruction derived from or implementing Directive
5210.

Last week we filed request under FOIA to obtain copies of assorted
purchase, maintenace and driver logs for a late model Jeep, Cherokee
or similar model, white in color, bearing a U.S. Government license
plates with the number 93B3561, which was observed within the State of
Nevada on July 16th.

It's obvious what this request is about, hmm?  If anyone else has
recorded the license numbers from any Cammo Dude vehicles, I'd sure
appreciate it if they were e-mailed to me for continued FOIA actions.
In just about all the photos I've seen, the actual plate number is
illegible.

Over the years, FOIA has become our friend in many different research
projects.  The downside is that it sometimes takes forever to obtain
anything.  As an example, we've had a request in to the DoJ's Bureau
of Prisons that took about a year to answer.  When they did answer,
they denied our journalist fee waiver.  Naturally, we appealled the
denial.  That appeal (at issue is about $100) has been languishing at
Justice for close to nine months.  Admittedly, most FOIA actions don't
take this long.  Thus far, Justice holds the record for being the most
"obstructive" simply by taking forever.  Even the CIA responds in a
timely manner, even if they simply deny a request.

I'd like to point out that probably no one document will ever come to
light that tells us much about Area 51.  However, what we have in play
is the same "mosaic effect" that the Area 51 folks are so concerned
about.  Enough small, insignificant pieces of information, when taken
all together, can paint an interesting, informative picture.

Returning to the subject of license plates, earlier in the week I
spoke with Les Gray, the Director, Fleet Management Division for the
General Services Administration (GSA).  He made it quite clear that
the aforementioned license plate number must have been issued by a
military installation to a vehicle intended to be used on installation
property.  All other license numbers are issued by the GSA per 41 CFR
101-38, and all begin with an alpha designator indicating to which
federal agency the vehicle is assigned.  DoD vehicles begin with D,
DoE vehicles begin with E, and Air Force vehicles begin with the AF
designator.  No surprises there, huh?

Damien Thorn
Ground Zero Communications, Inc.
damien@comsec.net


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