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Notes on Tonopah Test Range [4 msgs]

Date: Tue, 05 Aug 1997 08:43:39 -0500
From: [withheld by request]
Subject: Re: Tonopah Test Range & NASA

I spent a week at Tonopah in late 1989.
The 117's were in the hangers and according to what I was told had been
flown there in the guppie from Georgia. I bought a tee shirt with the
plane on the front and the title "TTR home of the Stealth Fighter"
before a picture showed up in Av Week.

The personnel at Tonopah fly in in the morning from Las Vegas
and home in the evening (just as at 51).

Recently in Austin, I attended a meeting hosted by NASA on
"Breakthrough Propulsion Physics".  The goal was to come up with the
next great drive system.  It was a strange meeting because right below
the surface of the meeting was an understanding that there was
something going on in the military that NASA did not have access to.

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Date: Wed, 06 Aug 1997 09:00:37 -0500
From: [same]
Subject: Re: Tonopah Test Range & NASA

        A couple of extra points about the TTR stuff.  The 117's were
all there.  Some were in the hangers the rest were on the runway and a
couple were usally in the air flying with chase planes.  I bought the
tee shirt at the gift shop in Tonapah and had my security badge picture
taken while wearing it.

        There was a letter of thanks posted on a bulliten board outside
the briefing room that was addressed to some corporation (I can't
remember which one) and thanking them for coming up with a more cost
effective method of applying reinforcing concrete to the inside walls of
tunnels.  It saved the program approximatly 200 million dollars.---I
reread it to make sure of the amount.  I couldn't believe the savings
could be so much.

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From: Lance_Scott/SJC/Lotus@lotus.com
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 1997 08:31:18 -0700
Subject: Answer to the F-117 question @ ufomind

I wanted to write you to let you know of a couple of resources. These
sources are only about the "Have Blue" and the FSD or Full Scale
Development (which later became the F-117) and the F-117 "Stealth
Fighter. first the aircraft was manufactured @ the Lockheed plant in
Burbank California then flown by C-5 cargo transport to Groom Lake.
Reassembled then flown out of the base during the flight testing phase
of the program (Late '78 through '82). Then the project moved, when it
became operational, North and West to the (formerly abandoned) Tonapah
Test Range Base. It's not known where the aircraft was flown. I'm sure
it made trips off the test range to be tested in the "real world",
however the majority of the testing, according to these sources, was
done out of the Groom Lake facility. With the flights restricted to
the Nellis AFB Bombing & Gunnery Range. Also testing did occur over
the Tonapah Test Range (owned by the DOE dept. of energy)

Two good sources are the Video put out by the Discovery Channel called
"Nighthawk secrets of the stealth" I think you can rent it. If not you
can buy it from the discovery channel directly. The second is a
website it's the Skunk Works....
www.lmsw.external.lmco.com/lmsw/html/index.html they have interesting
info and a gift shop with a book by James Goodall. This book will walk
you through the entire history about the stealth fighter project.
There is also good information in the Ben Rich autobiography. Ben was
the head of the Skunk Works during the F-117 Project.

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Date: Mon, 4 Aug 1997 21:12:36 -0400 (EDT)
From: Gary Bart <go2kanaha@aol.com>
Subject: TIADS (Technical Integrated Air Defense System) & Epilepsy?
Commenting on: http://www.ufomind.com/area51/comment/

Tonopah, NV  1968-9
There is an alarming rate of epilepsy in children who resided on or near
this base at this time. Does anyone know what was going on at TIADS, do
you know of any other people suffering from epilepsy who lived at this
area then? Please contact me at Go2kanaha@aol.com


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