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From: campbell@ufomind.com (Glenn Campbell, Las Vegas) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 16:12:07 -0800 |
In private email, James Graham <jgraham@genetics.com> said: >I read your post and the article--did you talk to this guy yourself? >What do you think of the lights he said he saw? Do they correspond to >Papoose Lake in your opinion? I visited with Jerry Freeman for a couple of hours today. I don't feel comfortable discussing too many details not in the article, since his possible arrest is of great concern and I don't want to give anything away unless he does it himself. (Poison pills were discussed. I urged him to keep the story small unless there was a reason to make it big.) He was definitely there -- within about 3 miles of the Papoose Lake bed and perhaps 5 south of Lazar's "Secret Saucer Base." He said he thoroughly scanned the area with binoculars and saw nothing -- no structures or signs of life. There was not even a test stand in the lake bed as previously reported. Using the Nellis Range Chart and Freeman's descriptions, I figure that his closest approach was 37deg03'N 115deg48'W. (Or the circle below the "E" of "Emigrant" on the chart). His risky path across the Test Site was dictated by the route of the Lost 49ers. At night, he saw two lights near the Papoose lake bed, as reported in the article.... "Freeman saw several lights. One appeared to be a security vehicle that moved around. Another, however, was stationary and appeared to get larger and smaller -- as would a hangar door as it opened and closed." On photographs, he showed me where he saw the lights. The moving light was consistent with a vehicle moving along a road on the northeast shore of the lakebed, along the foot of the Papoose Range, while the location of the stationary light was consistent with -- ah -- Lazar's secret saucer base. (Why won't Lazar stay dead!?) That is, the light was at the base of the Papoose Range near the lakebed at around the midpoint of the range as seen from the south. I didn't query him on the duration of the light or span of time between the moving and stationary lights. Freeman is obsessed with 49ers lore, not UFOs or secret aircraft, and he seemed somewhat naive about Area 51. When he pointed out to me where he saw the stationary light, he apparently had no idea that this was the location of Lazar's supposed base. (I emphasize, of course, that the light could be anything. It only signals some kind of human presence, not necessarily a hangar. However, any light is significant in this region where there is not supposed to be any.) The Nye Canyon road was a faint track -- it was not used very often if at all. There were no structures in or near Nye Canyon. (It now seems certain that the "building" previously reported in Nye Canyon, seen from Mt. Sterling and previously reported on this list, was a rock outcropping.) Freeman apparently saw no structures at all outside of the Nevada Test Site, except sightings of the abandonned tow targets that litter the Nellis Range. He did not get within sight of Area 51 proper, only Papoose Lake. Papoose Lake is partly within the "Dreamland" airspace but outside of the 10x6 mile Area 51 boundary. For the record, Freeman was a damn fool, and if he had contacted me about his expedition beforehand, I would have advised against it. If he were not an experienced desert survivalist -- having previously hiked from Utah to California -- he would have either died of dehydration or given himself up to the guards to prevent it. Glenn +------------------------------------------------------------------+ | U F O M I N D - M O T H E R S H I P | | "World's Largest and Best Organized UFO Website" * | | *** | | GLENN CAMPBELL - Ship's Captain & Acting Commander ***** | | ******* | | Area 51 Research Center campbell@ufomind.com ********* | | Las Vegas Annex http://www.ufomind.com | +------------------------------------------------------------------+ Index: Sightings, Testimonials & Anecdotes Index: Papoose Dry Lake Index: 1997 Articles About Area 51
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