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From: nclayton@ix.netcom.com Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 18:51:34 -0800 |
Since posting my recent analysis of the alleged use of deadly force by the Cammo Dudes outside the military border at Groom Lake (http://www.ufomind.com/area51/list/1997/jul/a17-003.shtml), I have received some interesting mail from readers bringing up the need for further clarification on this subject. One correspondent informed me that state laws are not valid on military lands, and that, in my previous posting, I was not making a sufficiently clear distinction between military law and civilian law, which have little in common with each other. As an ex-military man, he points out that at highly sensitive military installations, military personnel are authorized to aim their guns at non-violent intruders and shoot them if they breathe funny. Thus, wandering onto a secure military facility is NOT to be equated with simple trespassing of the civilian variety. One would, by doing the former, presumably be violating some fearsome-sounding piece of military law which has no equivalent on the civilian books, and one could perhaps be legally assaulted or killed for doing it. As I pointed out in my previous posting, military personnel operating on military property do indeed have broader authority to use deadly force than does a private citizen on civilian land, although I have little specific knowledge regarding the extent of that sort of military authority. On civilian land, deputized law enforcement officers have slightly broader deadly-force powers than do private citizens, although those powers are very limited, and are not necessarily the same as in the military case. What makes Area 51 interesting is that, as far as we know, most of the Cammo Dudes are neither military personnel nor deputized law enforcement officers. They appear to be civilian contractors who wear no insignia of authority, drive around in unmarked cars both inside and outside the border, and refuse to say for whom they work. What is equally interesting is that if Mr. Vogtís unpleasant encounter with the Cammo Dudes (http://www.ufomind.com/area51/testimonials/vogt.txt) occurred, as claimed, on civilian land, then the Dudes had absolutely no legal authority (that I am aware of) to threaten him at gunpoint, regardless of whatever powers they might possess inside the border. Unfortunately, as another correspondent points out, if you are travelling outside the border and the Cammo Dudes ambush you and point their guns at you when you are posing no immediate threat to them, there really isnít much you can do about it, even though they are breaking the laws of the State of Nevada by acting this way. The only enforcer of state law in Lincoln County is the sheriff, who is, of course, in cahoots with the Cammo Dudes. However, I do wish to give our friends in cammo a bit of credit here. I think one reason why the Dudes usually seem to run away from civilians outside the border is to avoid getting into a potentially ugly confrontation on civilian land, where they have no authority. The purely hypothetical scenario of using a gun to defend yourself against armed assault by a Cammo Dude on public land was presented in the previous posting merely as a thought-experiment to illustrate some basic precepts of civilian legal doctrine and to point out that the Cammo Dudes who ambushed Mr. Vogt at gunpoint outside the border were probably committing a very serious criminal offense under civilian jurisdiction, if the story is completely accurate. As I stated previously, it would be unwise to offer armed resistance in such a situation, even if you think you are on civilian land and you believe the law to be on your side. My best guess is that a lone hiker who violently resists the Cammo Dudes in the middle of the desert is likely to be killed. Either he will be killed by the Dudes against whom he is offering immediate armed resistance, or by their compatriots who will pursue him in their jeeps, or by men in unmarked helicopters armed with machine guns. Question: Would the Dudes then bury their victim in an unmarked grave, or would they cremate him on-base in one of those toxic-waste burn ditches? While my previous posting quite thoroughly deals with the legal and moral priciples governing armed confrontations on civilian land, what remains highly unclear to me is the exact nature of the authority the Dudes possess while operating on USAF land inside the border. I donít know the official rules regarding private security contractors operating on military property. Are they identical to the rules governing military personnel operating on military land? Anyone who has such information is invited to either post it or e-mail it to me. It would appear that the Cammo Dudes do not possess the full authority of military policemen, because they canít perform arrests inside the border. Note that intruders are handed over to the Lincoln County Sheriffís deputies, who do the actual arresting. For someone to have legal authority to initiate deadly force against peaceful border-crossers while lacking the authority to arrest them seems a bit odd, but apparently this is the case (although one correspondent suggested, plausibly, that maybe the Dudes really are MPs or secret sheriffís deputies who try to avoid exercising their powers so they wonít have to appear in court or submit publicly-inspectable reports). Things are made even more interesting by the complete lack of any physical barrier, such as a fence or a wall, at the Groom Lake military border, plus the fact that the boundary is not clearly marked everywhere. At all other secure military installations that Iíve read about, one would have to make a deliberate effort to penetrate the boundary, such as using bolt-cutters to break through a chain-link fence, and an intruder should therefore not be surprised to find himself staring down the barrel of a gun (presumably wielded by a uniformed military guard). At Groom Lake, however, a hiker could easily wander across the border without knowing it. One would think that any guard who threatens such a wanderer with deadly force ought to be wearing proper military insignia and should clearly identify himself as an authorized military person. Since this is not what appears to happen at Groom Lake, we have a strange situation. It seems that unidentified civilian contractors displaying no symbols of authority can legally assault you with deadly weapons just because you hiked across an invisible line in the middle of the desert. This seems kind of un-American to me, but we may presume that there exists somewhere an obscure peice of military law making it legal. I, for one, am curious to see the text of that law. The crucial point I wish to make is that aiming a gun at another human being is very serious business, no matter where it occurs. The laws (both civilian and military) governing such actions ought to be more clearly undersood, and blatant violations of the law on civilian land (such as the incident described by Mr. Vogt) should be investigated. What we have with the Cammo Dudes is a fascinating gray area. My main reason for doing all this writing is to shed what little light I can on the grayness and to invite others to shed more light on it. Perhaps we can get the Air Force to explain exactly what rules they have laid down for the Cammo Dudes, and from what section of the U.S. Code they derive the legal authority to make such rules. Nelson Clayton e-mail: nclayton@ix.netcom.com
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