Area 51 Mailing List Digest v096.n018
30 Oct 1996


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01 - campbell@ufomind.com (Gl - Meteor's Strange Trajectory 02 - Joseph C Y------- <jcy@U. - Possible groom worker 03 - campbell@ufomind.com (Gl - Underground Construction Could Have Been Nellis Area II 04 - Nick Loadholtes <njl@crl. - Re: AREA 51: Underground Construction: Bunkers For Nukes 05 - campbell@ufomind.com (Gl - Energizer Bunny on "The X-Files" 06 - campbell@ufomind.com (Gl - "Area 51" Seen on Credits of X-Files 07 - Joseph C Y------- <jcy@U. - Possible Groom Worker
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Message #1

From: campbell@ufomind.com (Glenn Campbell, Las Vegas) Subject: Meteor's Strange Trajectory Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 14:11:55 -0700 Sender: UFO-L email list <UFO-L@MB.PROTREE.COM> From: Terry Colvin <colvint@FHU.DISA.MIL> Subject: Meteor or Space Plane? Comments: To: skunk-works@mail.orst.edu, ufo@holodeck.demon.co.uk To: UFO-L@MB.PROTREE.COM Forwarded from the Space Tech list: Date: Sat, 19 Oct 1996 23:51:15 -0400 From: Joe Leikhim <Jleikhim@nettally.com> Subject: Was big "Meteor" over SoCal and NM really a Space Plane test?????? When I read the recent article in the AP which quoted John Wasson of UCLA and Mark Boslough of Sandia Nat'l labs claiming that this "meteor" "first entered the atmosphere near Las Cruces N.M., traveled over Artesia N.M, traveled 1 1/2 hours around the earth and re-entered over PT. Conception CA and continued its journey north of Bakersfield,,, traveled northeast of Kernville CA "where sonic booms were widely heard"" My suspicions were raised. Take a map out and check where Las Cruces and Artesia N.M are.Right on either side of White Sands Missile Base. Right??? Now run a straight line across PT Conception through Kernville. What do you find to the east??? Nellis Airforce Range!!!! This "Meteor" is no Meteor!! -- Joe Leikhim Jleikhim@nettally.com "tv dinner by the pool, i'm so glad i finished school"-F.Zappa 1967 [Via phraesius@rfhsm.ac.uk ...]

Message #2

From: Joseph C Y------- <jcy@U.Arizona.EDU> Subject: Possible groom worker Date: Fri, 25 Oct 1996 10:29:31 -0700 (MST) I had an unusual experince at the local tavern the other afternoon and I was wondering if anyone had some ideas as to how to proceed. I met a friendly gentleman the other day and he told me he worked on some underground construction "at a site near Nellis" back in the 60's. He said that his work was far from classified, he was an electrician. He installed light switches and such. He said that although the work was not secret in nature, the location was very protected. He said that he stayed there for over two months, only allowed to leave the facility once. he and a crew of over 150 workers slept in underground bunkers and worked 12 hour shifts 6 days a week. He said the amazing thing was how far the facility went underground, over 15 stories according to him. He claimed he only went down 15 stories but the elevator went down further. He mentioned there was no intimidation, but they were instructed that no mention of anything that they saw there was to be spoken of. He claimed that this was typical procedure so he saw nothing unusual about it. Our discussion started to turn to the facility itself and what might have been done there but I was pressed for time and had to run. He gave me his business card on an unrelated matter and said I can feel free to call him. He was a nice fellow and I think he would be willing to chat more about the base but I do not know what questions to ask. And please don't bother me with questions about aliens or any of that crap. He would think I was out of my mind. I should be calling him in the next couple of days so please get those suggestions to me. Thanks, Joe "How do you shoot the devil in the back..What if you miss?" Joseph C Y------- jcy@U.Arizona.EDU

Message #3

From: campbell@ufomind.com (Glenn Campbell, Las Vegas) Subject: Underground Construction Could Have Been Nellis Area II Date: Fri, 25 Oct 1996 20:17:23 -0700 Joseph C Y------- writes: >I met a >friendly gentleman the other day and he told me he worked on some >underground construction "at a site near Nellis" back in the 60's. He >said that his work was far from classified, he was an electrician. He >installed light switches and such. He said that although the work was not >secret in nature, the location was very protected. He said that he stayed >there for over two months, only allowed to leave the facility once. he >and a crew of over 150 workers slept in underground bunkers and worked 12 >hour shifts 6 days a week. Area 51 is possible, but another installation comes to mind: Area II at Nellis AFB. This is better described as "near Nellis" than Area 51, actually about two miles behind the main Nellis base on the outskirts of Las Vegas. I have heard frequent talk of underground facilities here to house nuclear weapons. In any case, more details of this guy's story would certainly be interesting. For info on Area II see
http://www.ufomind.com/area51/orgs/nellis/area2 Area II would have been known as Lake Mead Base in the 1960s, and it was run by the Navy (until Nellis took it over in 1969). The base was a storage area for nuclear devices heading for the Nevada Test Site, as well as nuclear munitions. It seems logical to put nuclear weapons underground to protect them from bombing. (I have no direct evidence of this, however. All that shows on the surface now are earthen bunkers.) If you could send a drift (tunnel) into Sunrise Mountain, you'd have a lot of shielding against surface blasts, even nuclear. (All of Vegas might be wiped out, but who cares as long as our nukes are safe?) There are plenty of "underground bunkers" at Area II -- earthen bunkers on the surface. Most are crude munitions lockers, not too comfy as dorms, but it is possible that some were used for this. Many bunkers are more like regular buildings with earth piled around them. In that case, he would probably still be moving around on the surface. Being confined to Lake Mead Base for two months is more realistic than being held underground. At least they had a swimming pool. >He mentioned >there was no intimidation, but they were instructed that no mention of >anything that they saw there was to be spoken of. The lack of intimidation seems very un-51-like. I understand they really lay it on before and after any employment there. >He was a nice >fellow and I think he would be willing to chat more about the base but I >do not know what questions to ask. -- "Lake Mead Base" should sound familiar to him if that's where he worked. "Area 51" would also be familiar to him if he was there instead. If he worked anywhere else in the Nellis Range or Nevada Test Site, he ought to have been impressed by the long travel times and remoteness of the work site. -- He should certainly know how he got there. Was it a long trip from Vegas? Did he fly or drive? How did he enter the facility on the surface? -- What sort of recreation facilities did they have? What was the food like? Did they get to watch TV? Was there a pool? An officers club? -- What did he think the function of the facility was? (He certainly must have had some ideas.) -- Who did he work for? What contractor? -- What was the decor like underground? Bare concrete? What was the size of the rooms? Was this facility intended to house large equipment. (The corridors would have been large in that case.) Was there any track system along the corridors? Were there any heavy blast doors in the corridors or between rooms? -- As an electrician he should know something about the power grid inside. Was the power capacity huge, or merely consistant with the lighting and other routine uses. -- Were there any water seepage problems? -- Can he pin down the year he worked there? .... I could go on and on. This guy would have been doing "finishing" work after the facility was completed, so he wouldn't have to know much about it, but he'd certainly know about the environment he worked and relaxed in. Glenn +------ U F O M I N D -------+ | Glenn Campbell campbell@ufomind.com | | AREA 51 RESEARCH CENTER - Las Vegas & Rachel, Nevada | | UFOs - Gov't Secrets - Philosophy - Psychology | | http://www.ufomind.com Box 448, Rachel, NV 89001 | +------------------------------------------------------+

Message #4

From: Nick Loadholtes <njl@crl.com> Subject: Re: AREA 51: Underground Construction: Bunkers For Nukes Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 08:50:34 -0700 (PDT) On Fri, 25 Oct 1996 campbell@ufomind.com wrote: > as well as nuclear munitions. It seems logical to put nuclear weapons > underground to protect them from bombing. (I have no direct evidence > of this, however. All that shows on the surface now are earthen bunkers.) Acutally I think that the reason bombs (both conventional and nuclear) are put into those kinds of structures is in case the bombs deatonate, the damage surrounding the bunker will be limited (because the bunkers will contain the blast). I remember when I used to live in Germany all of the ammo was kept in earthen bunkers. The locals might have gotten kinda mad if one of the NATO ammo dumps went boom... That's pretty important for nuclear weapons, I have heard (from former artillery officers) that after about 10 years the high explosives in nuclear devices starts to become unstable. Not that the instability would cause a "nuclear" explosion, but the explosion would spread radioactive debris all over the place. > -- Were there any water seepage problems? Huh? I don't get it, what would that mean? How deep the structure was or something? ************************************************************************ Nick "I never go to class anymore...I mean honestly, njl@crl.com learning is so overrated. All I do is drive
http://www.crl.com/~njl buses..." -Shelli

Message #5

From: campbell@ufomind.com (Glenn Campbell, Las Vegas) Subject: Energizer Bunny on "The X-Files" Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 23:53:47 -0700 Tonight's "X-Files" was your routine psychic killer story -- yet another "Silence of the Lambs" remake -- but a commercial at the end had me howling. It was an ad for Energizer batteries. A team in a radar-equipped van is trailing the elusive Energizer bunny. The ad is filmed in mock documentary style and has the look and feel of a segment on "Sightings." The team has fuzzy photographs of the bunny, but no solid proof. They show off their elaborate gear: videocams, radios, optics, electronics. They travel the countryside hot on the trail of their pink, drum-banging quarry. Alert! They think they spot him in a cornfield, and everyone piles out of the van with their equipment, camera close behind. Disappointment. It's only a woodchuck. The team never does spot the bunny and never captures the proof it needs, but members are philosophical. Says one: "It keeps on going, so you have to keep on going." ------------------------ The Simpsons Halloween shows were a riot, too. In an ID4 spoof, aliens kidnap Dole and Clinton just before the election. (I didn't get the ending though: Marge says: "Why would they aim a missile at a planet no one cared about?") Forget "The X-Files." More truth can be found in "The Simpsons" and those Energizer commercials. I believe that the ruling elite is using them to send us subliminal messages. G. +------ U F O M I N D -------+ | Glenn Campbell campbell@ufomind.com | | AREA 51 RESEARCH CENTER - Las Vegas & Rachel, Nevada | | UFOs - Gov't Secrets - Philosophy - Psychology | |
http://www.ufomind.com Box 448, Rachel, NV 89001 | +------------------------------------------------------+

Message #6

From: campbell@ufomind.com (Glenn Campbell, Las Vegas) Subject: "Area 51" Seen on Credits of X-Files Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 08:08:13 -0800 Joe Y------- writes... >Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 19:25:32 -0700 (MST) >From: Joseph C Y------- <jcy@U.Arizona.EDU> >To: "Glenn Campbell, Las Vegas" <campbell@ufomind.com> >cc: area51@lists.best.com >Subject: X-files > >I noticed during the x-files credits that next to someones name was the >caption (area 51 unitelligable). Did anyone else? I caught it out of the >corner of my eye. Perhaps someone taped it and can check out. >From Glenn: I didn't see it, but I assume it is Area 51, the computerized special effects company in Pasadena, CA. They did the spaceships for "Space Above and Beyond", a sister series of the X-Files. By coincidence, their Special Effects Supervisor is another Glenn Campbell. For an account of a meeting of the Area 51 Glenn Campbells see
http://www.ufomind.com/area51/desert_rat/1996/dr36/gc_meets_gc.html

Message #7

From: Joseph C Y------- <jcy@U.Arizona.EDU> Subject: Possible Groom Worker Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 13:28:55 -0700 (MST) Paydirt! I had a brief conversation with the man in regards to the place he worked and according to him, it was some research and development site where new aircraft and related technology was developed and tested. He knew this because he said there was a runway. At certain times all unathorized personnel were sent to their quarters and instructed not to leave. This was enforced by armed guards at the exits. Although this sounds intimidating, he claims he never felt that way, it was all just necessary precautions to secure the "secrecy of the operation". I don't think I'm going to get any UFO stories from this guy, I am pretty sure he served in a lower capacity. I have a lunch appointment with this man on friday and i will try and get more info then. I don't want to push too hard since I am talking to him about a job, not saucer bases, but i will se what I can do. Joe "How do you shoot the devil in the back..What if you miss?" Joseph C Y------- jcy@U.Arizona.EDU

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