Pay grades and "Col. Steve Wilson" [2 msgs]
From: campbell@ufomind.com (Glenn Campbell, Las Vegas)
Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 10:36:04 -0800
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Re: http://www.ufomind.com/area51/list/1997/nov/a29-002.shtml
From: "Ric Carter" <ric@sonic.net>
Subject: Re: AREA 51: Re: Col. Wilson and his missing Medal of Honor [5 msgs]
Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 23:28:58 -0800
> The last bit of information I'm interested in, both in the
> "search for Col. Wilson" and for other reasons, is information on
> pay grades. Do pay grades such as "E4" "E7" and "O4" correspond
> with a specific rank? If Col. Wilson was a Col. when he retired,
> would this correspond with a specific pay grade as listed in the
> database mentioned above?
>
> My guess is that "E" represents "enlisted" and "O" represents an
> "officer" ranking. If so, I'll note now that none of the 9
> "Wilson, Steve" entries had a pay grade higher than "E7"
> (whatever that actually represents).
>
> Damien Thorn
> Ground Zero Communications, Inc.
As I recall from my 70's US Army service, pay grades in the US Armed
Forces, have the ranges E1-E9 [enlisted and non-commissioned officers],
W1-W4 [warrant officers], and O1-O11 [commissioned officers]. In the
Army, Air Force and Marines, officers grades and ranks are as follows:
O1 - 2nd Lieutenant
O2 - 1st Lieutenant
O3 - Captain
O4 - Major
O5 - Lieutenant Colonel
O6 - Colonel
O7 - (*) Brigadier General
O8 - (**) Major General
O9 - (***) Lieutenant General
O10 - (****) General
O11 - (*****) General of the Army, General of the Air Force,
Commandant of the Marine Corps
I don't know if it's still common, but the former practice was that
when an officer ranked O3-O9 retired, they were promoted to the next
highest rank. Thus if someone's last active duty rank was O4 [major]
their retirement rank would be O5, and they could *claim* to be a
retired colonel. Lieutenant Colonel actually, but why quibble ??
As we see from the above list, O7 is Brig.Gen, which would be the
retirement rank of a "Bird Colonel" Steve Wilson. So Damien, those
records you searched are not inconsistent with Wilson's claims. I
have *no* opinion as to the validity of those claims, but you can't
use the pay-grade records to invalidate them. More research, eh?
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Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 23:08:32 -0500 (EST)
Subject: DD214 data
From: Jim Miller <satsang@usa.net>
ALL awards and decorations appear on the USAF DD214. Regretfully, they are
in abbreviations that usually defy comprehension. Then again, though,
what's new? :)
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