Common features of Shulman/Wang [7 msgs]
From: campbell@ufomind.com (Glenn Campbell, Las Vegas)
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 10:04:50 -0800
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Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 03:28:28 -0500 (EST)
Subject: ACC charges
From: haines@geosrv.com (haines)
It is now Tuesday AM and I am curious whether ACC's crack legal team
has made good on their threats. Even if not, "Kaiser Soze~" , who has
been the main attack dog on ACC's "Alien Science and Technology"
forum, appears to have addressed the issue, as quoted from this post
of Sunday, March 15 :
When Glen Campbell posted a spontaneous assaultive, and
harrassing page on this website, yesterday am, without any
prior cause: and it was deleted, Glen Campbell, in a fit of
rage, posted 13 different posts from a common user id, under
different people's names, all of it confrontational,
insulting and demeaning, libelous and inappropriate. All in
response to a simple post asking what people think of his
website, and that of his friend, Dan Woolman, ISO. We've
expressed no opinions here about "ufomind" nor of "iso" in
these two surveys.
I should point out that ACC is also highlighting vague accusations
that "organized crime" elements in Nevada are responsible for the
above-referenced disruptions, and has also admitted to deliberately
altering the content of at least one poster's message in the past two
days. Nevertheless, I must ask, is any of the above true?
G. G. Haines
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ANOTHER B.S. CLUE
From: Glenn
Kaiser says, "Glen Campbell, in a fit of rage, posted 13 different
posts from a common user id, under different people's names, all of it
confrontational, insulting and demeaning, libelous and inappropriate."
This brings to mind another clue for detecting liars:
-- PROJECTION. In Freudian psychology, projection is a tendency of a
guilty party to accuse other people of the very thing that he himself
is accused of (or feels guilty about). E.g. sex offenders are quick to
accuse others of sex crimes (Marsha?). It is an attempt to free
oneself of blame and self-reproach by making another person seem
worse.
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COMMON FEATURES OF SHULMAN CORRESPONDENCE
From: [withheld by request]
Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 23:29:23 -0700
To: campbell@ufomind.com
Subject: Jack Shulman
Glenn,
I was forwarded your analysis of Jack Shulman that you had done after
the phone call you got from him about your Ed Wang piece on your
website. I got in early in digging up dirt on Shulman. I can give you
a couple of things that I found.
------ Jack claims to have worked for Wang computers and then he comes up
with the unimaginative name of Ed "Wang" as a friend of his.
------ I discovered that all of the signatures of Wang, all the board
managers on his bulletin board, and the people who were writing
supposedly independent journalistic pieces on his website...all of these
people had the same telltale style of signing their names. It was with
a double hyphen, a space and then their name like this:
-- Ed Wang
-- John Schwartz
etc., etc....When this was presented to Shulman on the Jeff Rense show, he
said that the signature was done that way for security reasons and that
he had instructed his employees to sign that way. When asked why Ed
Wang signed that way since Ed was supposed to not be an employee, Jack
said that Ed was dating someone at ACC and he must have picked the style
up (I kid you not!!!!)
------ On the ACC site were a couple of pieces written by a Harold
Wise and a John Schwartz. Under John's name was the listing for
Superior Media Services. Harold and John were listed as reporters for
this media service who were doing some "unbiased" reports on ACC. Under
the name of the media service was the telephone # for it. I called and
got an answering service. I hung up before being transferred since I
didn't know if they had caller ID or not and didn't want to get pegged.
An ACC researcher friend of mine DID get through and who answered the
phone? Shulman, of course! He said that Superior Media just happened
to share not only his building but the same phone lines!
Both "John Schwartz" and "Harold Wise" signed their names with the
double hyphen and space before their names on his webpages. Here's the
phone # for Superior Media...(908) 931-1200.
IMHO, people have been giving Shulman far too much credibility even in
their debunking. He clearly has a very small operation and he is a
fanatically prolific writer and poster on his own website using numerous
aliases. When you say you wonder if this will end like Waco. Well,
with Waco there was actually a group where with Shulman there is only
one person. He may have a couple of people who work in his immediate
environment who do mundane tasks but that's about it. He's a used car
salesman type who has a lot more guts than most cons and who has the
ability to do a half-assed OK job on pulling off a scam to sell
computers that have phoney "alien" technology at their core.
Hope this was of interest. Knockout job with your analysis! That email
is going to be spread around far and wide to be sure. I wouldn't be
sweating a lawsuit since smoke, mirrors and hot air have a hard time
standing in a convincing way in front of a jury.
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OTHER COMMON FEATURES
From: UFOTruths [mailto:UFOTruths@aol.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 1998 7:30 AM
To: ufolist@riskers.org
Subject: Similar???
I am a private investigator, and have only been lurking for some time.
Now, however, I see some things you should all see. I have more to
look at, but need more time to gather up all the information. Let me
know what you all think.
In a letter to Glenn Campbell from Jack Shulman:
<SNIP>However, I find it interesting that Glen Campbell himself
would post libelous posts about me here. Here we have a guy who
sits outside Area-51 thinking he's looking for government
harbored UFO's, staring down Wackenhut detectives...In our city,
Wackenhut detectives are a joke.
Now, in a post by Ed Wang to several lists:
<SNIP>Yeah, Glen Campbell, the same man who does nothing but
scope out Area 51, when in reality, is actually doing nothing but
stalking Wackenhut security officers. What a joke.
[[NOTE]] Two things to note here: 1-The spelling of Glenn's name.
Do you really think it is coincidence that they both got the spelling
wrong? Glenn is with 2 n's. 2-Interesting similar references, this I
find strange, as they are almost identical.
NEXT:
In a letter to Glenn Campbell from Jack Shulman:
<SNIP>Then, you become just a another Lan Lamphere for our Lawyers.
Now, in a post by Ed Wang to several lists:
<SNIP>Then you are nothing but another Lan Lamphere for ACC's
lawyers, and mine too!
[[NOTE]] Hmmmmmmmm.
NEXT:
In a letter to Glenn Campbell from Jack Shulman:
<SNIP>That's MONDAY, Glen. Sorry I wasted 10 cents on calling a
man with no moral conscience.
Now, in a post by Ed Wang to several lists:
<SNIP>Yes, I talked to them last FRIDAY! I cannot believe I wasted
10 cents on a sensationalistic person such as her.
[[NOTE]] More Hmmmmmmm's.
NEXT:
In a letter to Glenn Campbell from Jack Shulman:
<SNIP>The allegations that Ed Wang is "promoting" ACC are
incorrect. He just likes us, I guess... As do the majority of the
mainstream UFO community.
Now, in a post by Ed Wang to several lists:
<SNIP>Wrong you moron. The mainstream UFO community is still
behind ACC and their study.
[[NOTE]] Do you see it?
Sam Cantell
[Via: todd@riskers.org]
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EMAIL ADDRESSES & DOMAINS
From: [anonymously sent]
Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 17:02:08 -0500
To: campbell@ufomind.com
Subject: Shulman is a fraud
Shulman is a troublemaker and a fraud. He's threatened and harassed
numerous people in the UFO community, the most prominent being Lan
Lamphere, of Windchaser films (the guy who caught a flying disk on
video last year while chasing storm cells) First this guy named
"Wang" threatened Lamphere, then "Shulman" threatened to sue him. The
trouble started when Freidman faxed "Shulman" to coughup with some
evidence for his claims, and Lamphere put the fax on the web -- then
"Wang" went after Lamphere, as well as "Shulman". I've called ACC,
and the same voice as "Shulman" answered the phone claiming to be
"John from security".
Here's some info posted to the internet
whois acsa@ix.netcom.com ?
Schwartz, John (JS6037) acsa@IX.NETCOM.COM
ACSA
6 Commerce Dr.
Cranford, NJ 07016
908-272-3330 (FAX) 908-272-6297
The same email address was used by Ed Wang & Bob Wolf to threaten and
harrass Lan Lamphere at Nexxus.
And "ufotruth" also used an "ix.netcom.com" email address to promote ACC.
"Ed Wang" is at edwang@ix.netcom.com so we have an "ix.netcom.com"
connection among all five.
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Domains registered to Jack Shulman a.k.a. John Schwartz, a.k.a. Daniel
Grossman who all used the nicolai-tesla@msn.com and 72662.13@compuserve.com
email addresses seen widely on the following ACC web sites:
american-computer.com
acsa2000.net
acsa.net
kasparov.com
ticorporation.com
accpc.com
compamerica.com
PCMAKER.COM
byAmerican.com
process-server.net
servepapers.com
According to Internic, the above "organizations" are all located at 6
Commerce Drive, Cranford, NJ 07016 but the web pages all have the same IP
address 206.214.38.13. This IP address belongs to NETCOM in San Jose.
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From: "Todd Andrews" <todd@riskers.org>
To: "Glenn Campbell, Las Vegas" <campbell@ufomind.com>
Subject: RE: UFOMIND: Shulman sets deadline: lawyers on Monday
Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 10:09:03 -0700
Glenn, a few months ago Lan Lamphere and I ran into similar problems
with both Jack Shulman and Ed Wang. They sent letters with no
signature from their legal department, made unbelievable threats, etc.
One word, however, they DID send the police to Lan Lamphere's home,
saying he had made death threat. Also, Jack Shulman (Ed Wang) also
have similiar spelling problems. For one, 'libel' is misused for
'liable'.
He pulled the same with us, you are his next target. In my opinion
(IMHO) he and all of this whole ACC thing are nothing but a bunch of
misinformation specialists. I have given up. For the most part, I
post nothing about ACC to my list or on my page. Also, Jack is very
incorrect in stating he has a majority of the UFO community in his
grasps. I know about 5 people on my list of over 300 that actually
even partially believe any of his bullshit!
Todd Andrews
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A SUPPORTER REPLIES
From: JZoromski <JZoromski@aol.com>
Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 00:42:48 EST
To: webmaster@ufomind.com
Subject: u need to spend some time and research jack shulman
if you bothered to actually investigate jack, and yes virginia, this
will cost you some money(buy a tigerpad w/tcap technology, or a tcap
itslef), you will realize this man is what he claims, and most
certainly a true friend to the ufo community.
he is the man that will break this thing into the open, perhaps acc
will not last-that's irrelavant. mr shulman is very, very smart. he
is not at the limitation of a corporation
he has what he claims - reams of documents relating to the corona
craft. please, do not try and obstruct him, i can tell you, what he
does is for real.
what are your reasons for doubting him? multiple internic
registrations? what's that got to do with the price of beans in china?
regards
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