Re: KingAir as interceptor aircraft [2 msgs]
From: campbell@ufomind.com (Glenn Campbell, Las Vegas)
Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 13:26:05 -0800
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Re: http://www.ufomind.com/misc/1998/may/d04-001.shtml
>There may have been a serious airspace violation Sunday afternoon.
>Aircraft were possibly dispatched out of Nellis and McCarran to
>intercept a small civilian aircraft buzzing around the complex and the
>box........including the facility. A little more serious than the
>average intrusion. Aircraft was chased west past Tonopah by a KingAir
>out of McCarran (Janet ramp). Might be interesting if you investigate
>it a little. Not sure of the outcome. The intruders tail number were
>not yet known. Please leave this message anonymous.
>
>[I can't figure this one out. It is one of the many dubious messages
>I recieve. I would have thrown it out if it did not coincide with the
>message above. I can't imagine a KingAir being used to chase anyone.
>All interceptions I have heard of involve fighter jets. --GC]
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Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 08:21:27 -0700
From: Rich McIntosh <Rich.McIntosh@ci.sj.ca.us>
Subject: Airspace Intrusion
Your comments regarding the airspace intrusion are valid. Using a
Kingair as an interceptor just does not wash. The Kingair is designed
to carry passengers and while it is a turboprop (propeller hooked up to
a turbine) and reasonably fast as compared to a small piston driven
aircraft, "scrambling" one from McCarran is not gonna get the job done
especially with the resources available in the immediate area. If they
can get a Blackhawk helicopter to respond as a normal security measure
for land intruders then a couple of F-16's to track down an airborne
threat is easily done. The time just for the Kingair to get from
McCarran to the area is way too long. Also the airborne radar required
to find an intruder is what an F-16 is designed for. Exactly the
opposite for the Kingair. This intruder report may be coincidental or
perhaps a bit of disinformation just to muddy the waters?
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Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 09:17:13 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Interceptions
From: CatshotKim <CatshotKim@aol.com>
As a "bug- smasher" pilot, specifically Cessna 152s, I can certainly
see the utility of carrying out an intercept on a general-aviation
plane with a Cessna Kingair. The key is the operating speeds of the
aircraft involved. I can safely operate the 152 at speeds as low as 50
knots. Try doing an intercept on me with an F-15 or -16 and the air
farce pilot would see me briefly as he zips by at no less than 150
knots. The stall speeds (speed at which the wing stops producing
sufficient lift) of fighters make them ill- suited to intercepting
bug- smashers. They just can't fly slow enough to accomplish anymore
than scareing the offender. They probably wouldn't even have time to
clearly make out the registration number.
The Kingair gives them the ability to fly relatively fast to catch the
guy, and relatively slow to make an ID or force the guy to obey
instructions. I believe the Customs Service and DEA uses similar
aircraft in their anti- drug campaign for those very reasons.
Kim Keller
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